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There's pleny of room in the modern-styled gymnasium for muscle developing, where the boys are supervised by Mr. R. Parry, the physical education instruction.
Source: Lancashire Life Magazine, December 1959

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Comments by Chris G on 24th May 2020  

John
I wouldn't exactly say that I was "made" to go back to wearing a PJ top in the winter. We were very much a PJ-wearing household in those days, and when I was invited to ditch my PJ top, it was on the understanding that I would go back to wearing it when the hot weather came to an end, something I was happy to go along with. It was nearly November before Mum commented meaningfully that the nights were getting colder, softening the blow with the promise that "next summer" wasn't very far away. Having enjoyed my brief period of freedom, I made sure that "next summer" came around rather more rapidly than Mum expected, and for some strange reason that Mum never understood, "next winter" lasted barely a couple of months. Subsequent winters failed to appear at all!

Comments by Chris G on 24th May 2020  

Emma
I can readily identify with your comments about peer group influence among children. When bare-chested PE was introduced at my secondary school when I was about 13 (late 1950s), most of us were initially apprehensive at the prospect of appearing topless in front of our classmates, despite happily stripping down to shorts or swimming trunks in a pool, at the beach or park and in our back gardens. But by the end of the first week we took bare-chested PE for granted, and nobody in my class wanted to revert to wearing a vest for hot sweaty exercise.

But it went further than that. For most of us, PE tops had been our everyday underwear vests, few parents having sufficient spare cash for dedicated PE tops, used only a couple of hours a week during term time. Taking our lead from a small group of lads who proudly never wore vests, even in winter, the remainder of us habitual vest wearers progressively stopped putting our vests back on after PE, then not wearing them to school on PE days, and within a couple of weeks, virtually all of us had stopped wearing vests altogether. Mum had a few, ultimately fruitless, words to say on the matter, fairly easily dismissed by the traditional kids claim that "everybody/nobody does . . .". Such is the power of the peer group.

Comments by Emma on 24th May 2020  

John - what a lovely and kind comment. Thank you. Are you a parent?

Comments by John on 24th May 2020  

Emma,
I think that you and your husband are really great parents.

Comments by Emma on 23rd May 2020  

Graham - well our oldest was 10 when he started boarding but he followed the other boys at school in abandoning wearing pjs around about 13 if I remember. His two brothers just followed their elder brother rather along the lines as your sister followed you. It never bothered me in the slightest. All harmless stuff. Hubby may have been an influence but l really believe children are largely influenced by their peer group - you know how they adopt their own fashion and codes - identity shaping

Comments by Emma on 22nd May 2020  

Graham - well our oldest was 10 when he started boarding but he followed the other boys at school in abandoning wearing pjs around about 13 if I remember. His two brothers just followed their elder brother rather along the lines as your sister followed you. It never bothered me in the slightest. All harmless stuff. Hubby may have been an influence but l really believe children are largely influenced by their peer group - you know how they adopt their own fashion and codes - identity shaping

Comments by Graham on 22nd May 2020  

Emma
Boys will be boys! And girls too, given the speed with which my copy-cat sister discarded her own skimpy nightwear once she got wind of my new bedtime fashion.

You said you allowed your boys to sleep naked at home once they started doing it at boarding school. How old were they then, and did they usually wear PJs before they went away to school? Did they actually ask your approval, or was it accepted as a fait accomplis without further discussion?

When I went home at half-term with my PJs still in their wrappers, Dad joked that there was probably still time for them to go back to the shop for a refund (there was), while Mum instinctively, and correctly, deduced that I would no longer need the PJ bottoms I was sleeping in before I went away and quietly removed them from my bedroom without further comment! Both laughingly agreed that while PJs featured on the boarders' clothing list, nothing was said about actually wearing them, hinting that they might follow my example.

Comments by Emma on 21st May 2020  

Graham - yes, your situation reflects that of my husband. He tells me that he returned home without his pjs ever having been used. Our boys had pjs too but the school seemed not to enforcing its own regulations with regard to them being worn in the 'seniors', at least it saved us the unnecessary expense of buying further pairs!

Comments by Graham on 21st May 2020  

Emma - Boarding school at age 11 for me. Despite not having worn a PJ top for several years, Mum insisted that I took 3 brand new PJ sets as specified, only to find that birthday suits were de facto sleepwear throughout the school. She and Dad were quite amused at half term when I arrived home with them still in their wrappers.

Comments by Emma on 20th May 2020  

Graham - definitely their boarding school but also some influence of their dad but he was an ex boarder! How about yourself and what about your own offspring?

Comments by Graham on 20th May 2020  

Emma - what made your boys choose to sleep naked. Was it the influence of boarding school life, or your own parental suggestion?

Comments by Emma on 20th May 2020  

We have allowed our boys to sleep naked ever since they started at boarding school to do so. Seems a healthier aspect for males too. Only in winter do they make a grab for a tshirt!

Comments by John on 19th May 2020  

Chris G,
It was good that your parents suggested that you slept shirtless but they shouldn’t have made you wear a pj top in the winter. I started sleeping shirtless on my return from school camp aged 12. Males have a higher upper body temperature than women so it’s a much healthier and more comfortable way for guys to sleep.

Comments by Chris G on 19th May 2020  

Andrew H, I was just a few months short of 11 when I first slept topless, but it was at Mum and Dad's suggestion during an extended spell of hot weather, rather than an outright order, and a suggestion I was more than happy to go along with. Unfortunately, once the cooler weather returned, I was expected to wear my PJ top again. However, it was a step in the right direction. Over the next few years I progressively extended the topless season a bit further each year until by the time I went away to boarding school at 15, I had been continuously sleeping topless for well over a year. When I got to my new school, I was pleasantly surprised to find that everyone slept bare-chested, so I fitted in immediately.

Comments by Andrew H on 18th May 2020  

Wow this brings back memories. Our school had a bare chest policy for PE and Games with no exceptions from the age of 9-18. The school was mixed but we did share the gym very rarely. There was a small blackboard attached to the wall with the word "Skins" written just in case you'd forgotten.The gym windows were reinforced glass and ran the length of the gym it was easy for the girls to watch us especially with staggered lunch queues whic formed in the corridor and the girls took full advantage. There was the expectation to perform cross country runs and laps of the field also, which could be quite harsh depending on the time of year. I took a good few of them, usually for not paying attention in English lessons. It was common to see lads doing laps of the field and outdoor exercise or football whatever the weather. My parents fully supported the schools stance having boys strip to the waist and when I turned 11 my dad told me I'd sleep topless and stop wearing a vest to bed. I remember my elder sisters had a good laugh at that.

Comments by John on 18th May 2020  

Andrew H,
You clearly went to a good school and had sensible parents, I can’t understand why your sisters thought that it was funny for your dad to make you sleep barechested. I wish my dad had got me to sleep shirtless at 11 as he’d have saved me the huge embarrassment of going on school camp age 12 with a full set of pjs. Other lads made fun of me for not already sleeping shirtless as a 12 year old.

Comments by Andrew H on 17th May 2020  

Wow this brings back memories. Our school had a bare chest policy for PE and Games with no exceptions from the age of 9-18. The school was mixed but we did share the gym very rarely. There was a small blackboard attached to the wall with the word "Skins" written just in case you'd forgotten.The gym windows were reinforced glass and ran the length of the gym it was easy for the girls to watch us especially with staggered lunch queues whic formed in the corridor and the girls took full advantage. There was the expectation to perform cross country runs and laps of the field also, which could be quite harsh depending on the time of year. I took a good few of them, usually for not paying attention in English lessons. It was common to see lads doing laps of the field and outdoor exercise or football whatever the weather. My parents fully supported the schools stance having boys strip to the waist and when I turned 11 my dad told me I'd sleep topless and stop wearing a vest to bed. I remember my elder sisters had a good laugh at that.

Comments by TimH on 11th May 2020  

John S - Maltamom is a 'well-known' individual, who's been around for some time. I think 'they' used to troll Mumsnet and I've come across 'them' elsewhere.

Comments by John S on 10th May 2020  

Just a little fed up with ‘Mr Dando’s’ endless interventions/posts on here and the other similar threads. He obviously has a ‘thing’ about kids changing for PE and a quick look through earlier contributions shows a similar set of posts from ‘Maltamon’. Is he the same individual I wonder?

http://www.historyworld.co.uk/photo.php?offset=2150&sort=0&l1=Childhood&l2=Schools&id=1607

Comments by Chris G on 9th May 2020  

My first school was very easy going kit-wise. As long as you had white shorts, a white top and clean plimsolls it didn't matter where they came from. Until we went topless, most of us just wore our ordinary underwear vests, and Mum a free-lance dressmaker, even made me a pair of shorts on one occasion. My second school was more demanding. We had to have a round-neck short-sleeve top in white and black rugby shorts, both from a specified supplier, and topless was never an option,

Comments by Josh H on 8th May 2020  

Yes my P E kit was often passed down from my older brother. When eventually I had new there was no particular school shop stockist. Plain football shorts (also worn for P E)and of course there were very few brand labels, and we had to have plain shorts.

Comments by Tom B on 7th May 2020  

Umbro produced lovely plain white nylon shorts in vast quantities. I missed them by a few years but they were ideal in my view. With just ankle socks and trainers if necessary there would be no excuses for putting together an expensive kit.

Comments by Michael on 7th May 2020  

In the early 1960s my PE kit, including ankle socks and plimsolls, had to be plain white, with no stripes or coloured hems, etc. of any kind.

Even if they had been available, the school would not have allowed fashion labels or logos. This meant we avoided this form of peer pressure.

Additionally, my PE kit could be bought from any sports wear or school uniform stockist, without the price being inflated by designer styles.

Comments by Josh H on 7th May 2020  

I have never had the experience of swimming naked. Obviously from what a lot of people have recorded it is enjoyable, but now a days in modern Britain it is very unlikely for me. that now I never will.
AS I have stated before the general opinion is that males should not wear a brief style swimming costume. Long shorts and board shorts seem to be the norm.

Comments by Keith on 5th May 2020  kjl483@yahoo.com 

@ Tom B. How I agree with you on all points you have made, especially on PE kit, a lot is peer pressure into having the best kit, trainers, shorts, fancy tee shirts and track suits all costing a small fortune, I can attest to this as my grandson when he was at school had a small fortune spent on him, for the various sports that the school ran, and actually he wasn't really a bit interested in most of the sports, just keeping fit, he did them of course because he had to, he was more of an academic and studied hard, to which that has now rewarded him with a good job.

Like many he does use a gym now and wishes that facilities like that were available to him when at school instead of the "team" games that were mandatory.

As regards showering he told me that it wasn't mandatory at his schools but he did shower as he prided himself in his appearance and wasn't afraid of being seen naked in the changing rooms or showers.

The only naked swimming I did was in the local river and a couple of secluded lakes in my boyhood and like you said I do envy those who had to do it at school.

Comments by Tom B on 3rd May 2020  

I have read the last few pages of comment here with interest and it has made me reflect on my experience of various aspects of PE in schools between 1990 and 2002, much later than many here. Obviously I never had to endure corporal punishment and am very grateful for the fact. That said, I don’t feel other changes represent progress.

The uniform

I attended a state primary school and honestly, I don’t remember much about PE. I don’t remember what the PE kit consisted of other than “pumps” and the fact that those who forgot their kit had to do it in vest and pants.

I moved to a small independent mid way through term at the age of 7. The school uniform was grey shorts - all year round, a shirt and blazer. For PE we wore white shorts and a T shirt, bare footed but there were no restrictions on underwear. For football, white shorts were exchanged for navy blue.

At my senior school the uniform shorts were exchanged for trousers, socks and trainers added to PE kit and a reversible rugby shirt worn for football and rugby.

PE lesson content

At primary school I really remember nothing of PE. I can’t say I ‘got involved’ at all.

After that, PE was mixed with a single year group, while boys and girls separated for ‘games’ but joined other year groups.

At the junior school equipment was very limited and PE consisted of gymnastics moves on the mats or using the box as in the photograph. We did not have ropes or wall bars. Games lessons were football in the autumn and spring terms, cricket in the summer.

From the age of 11 again, the gymnasium was pretty limited and while we did have ropes and some wall bars, rarely used them. Basketball, hockey and rounders were introduced at PE and occasionally we did cross country runs. Games lessons were rugby in the autumn term, football in the spring and cricket in the summer.

My view on this is that the curriculum is flawed. Having found strength and conditioning training and the importance of flexibility some two decades later I firmly believe schools should focus on bodyweight training particularly for younger boys and introduce weights as they get older focussing more on that kind of physical education and less on ‘games’ - football, rugby and cricket are specialised areas for those with an interest, skill or just a desire to play.

I saw a documentary recently on the La Sierra Physical Educational programme and it certainly looks to tick all boxes in terms of getting all included and active.

Changing and shower facilities

My Junior school didn’t have changing facilities. for PE we would change in the corridor outside the hall while for games lessons our classrooms were used. There were no showers.

When I moved to the senior school I was quite shocked. The 11 year old me first, inadvertently walked into the older boys changing rooms which contained a changing area at either end of an open shower with 12 shower heads. I then found the younger boys changing room with 3 changing areas and an open shower room with 6 shower heads.

The majority of my classmates had come from the junior section of the same school so knew each other and had been showering together for 4 years. At 11 and somewhat shy I found it embarrassing after the first games (rugby) session to strip off and shower - ironically because my development had come earlier - a fact I should have revelled in.

That single experience put me off communal showering and I avoided it over the next few years. It was never mandatory and though some boys showered after every session the majority didn’t. The showers were only full after an inter-school rugby or football match.

I was however always jealous of the ease at which some boys would strip down and shower. Now, after a gym session I am perfectly at ease with my own nudity in the changing room.

Modern day policies against the old

As I say I wish I had not let nudity with my classmates bother me. Had I started showering with my class at the age of 7 rather than 11 I don’t think it would have become a problem and so it is my belief that mandatory communal showering should come back.

When I think back to my day and PE uniform at the schools I attended it was far more minimal and so affordable. Parents now have to shell out for branded tracksuits and such, for me it was just a few pairs of shorts and a t-shirt/rugby shirt.

Finally, for those of you who were able to enjoy naked swimming, on balance I think you were really pretty lucky!

Comments by Chris G on 19th April 2020  

Michael, I tend to agree with you. baasic gymnastics, foreard rolls, star-jumps etc. were OK, and I would happily go up the wall-bars of even a rope, but I never mastered hand-stands, especially on a horse or box, and forward/backward circles on a beam, or even walking along a beam at altitude, scared me witless. Somehow, I survived, as i expect most of us did!

Comments by Michael on 18th April 2020  

As a cautious, forward-thinking boy I could never see the point of putting myself at risk of breaking my neck, by performing gymnastics for which I had little enthusiasm.

But, like the boys in the picture, I was regularly forced to do handstands on top of a vaulting box, climb ropes to the lofty ceiling and perform many other gymnastic routines which frankly terrified me.

My PE master was ex-forces bully, who regarded any hesitation to comply with his demands almost as an affront to his authority, and punished accordingly.

My fear of him outweighed my fear of breaking my neck, so I got into the habit of doing as I was told as quickly as I could, whilst still nervous of the potential hazards.

But years of this amounted to a scarring experience which has defined my attitude to exercise/sport ever since.

Comments by Bo on 17th April 2020  

It starts with the feminisation of schools. No stripping to the waist for PE even indoors. This was a ritual the majority of boys would experience. Boys do not need a top to exercise in and I'm sure a lot of today's youngsters would enjoy stripping down and showing their masculinity and physique.

Comments by Josh H on 14th April 2020  

It is clearly the "British Reserve" that we are so obsessed in covering up so much. It would be nice to have the freedom to be "more free" Sometimes i can do this when in my garden, but it is not very secluded and I always have a pair of shorts with me to put on very quickly if necessary.
Even our Gym does not have segregated times when users could perhaps indulge in a bit of freedom.

Comments by Stuart on 13th April 2020  Cmnmuk@yahoo.co.uk 

@Josh H @Bernard. Agree i have travelled a lot across Europe in the last 20 years or so and can readily confirm speedo style / tight short trunks are de rigeur in french pools. I've just returned ( early March pre lockdown) from 3 weeks in Germany and Holland.
Germany all the wonderful spas are swimwear for the pool and then naked for the spa.
In dutch spas 100% naked throughout. Young and old welcome no issues for anyone.

In hotel leisure areas often it is clothing optional. I was in hotel sauna in Arhnem naked. Older couple there too she costume,he naked. In walks Dad and two daughters aged approx 12 and 10 with costumes. Not an issue everyone just nods hello and carries on.

In Denmark all beaches are clothing optional. It is only in the UK we are obsessed with the belief that nudity isbad, as the dutch website listing all the spas says: nudity iis natural and normal.

My childhood of nude swimming both at school and on holidays led me to really enjoy clothes free swimming without hang ups.

Comments by Josh H on 13th April 2020  

I did not realise that in France they still insist on men wearing swimming briefs. They are prepared as you say they haver them available for those who are unaware. I wonder what our fellow countrymen think of that. When and why did the fashion in Britain turn to shorts,(including underwear?)

Comments by Pete on 13th April 2020  

Josh H, IME nudity is normal in saunas in Scandinavian and Nordic countries. A few posts back someone cited a pool in Helsinki where naked is normal though on different days for men and women, I've swum there and can attest to the accuracy of what was said.

Swimming in France requires Speedo style briefs, in anything longer or larger you simply will not be allowed in to the pool and it's in line with a national regulation. Frenchmen and others in the know turn up with the correct trunks, in the main places have a supply to loan for Brits and others who are not in the know.

Personally I prefer swimming naked which was what was required at school and for me nothing beats it.

Comments by Bernard on 12th April 2020  

Josh - you make a very valid point about vitamin D. For some years the hysteria about sun exposure has led to a situation where a large proportion of the population in Britain is deficient in this important vitamin. As well as being important for strong bones vitamin D is required for a healthy immune system. I wonder how many deaths from coronavirus in people with no known underlying health issues are, in fact, because the unfortunate people have poor immune systems, possibly due to vitamin D deficiency. Perhaps the authorities should be a little more sympathetic with those who wish to indulge in a bit of sun-bathing as long as social distancing is being observed.

Comments by Josh H on 12th April 2020  

Yes Stuart I understand that in some parts of Europe there are places where one can swim naked. Furthermore nudity seems accepted in saunas etc in Scandnavia. I feel restricted because I prefer swimming briefs which for some reason is frowned upon in this country, yet it is acceptable for ladies to wear bikinis. However when I holiday in Spain many men wear briefs although you can always tell the Brits in their long shorts, and youngsters almost completely covered up so that they get no vitamin D

Comments by Stuart on 11th April 2020  Cmnmuk@yahoo.co.uk 

FrankC yes the move to wear trunks was restrictive indeed. As soon as i could i reverted to naked swimming wherever possible usually on holiday in the far more relaxed societies of europe.
To this day i still prefer to swim nude.

Comments by Pete on 11th April 2020  

In he midst of lockdown, I have just turned the pages of Men's Health, I'm a bit past that these days!

I was very interested to see that all the men demonstrating exercises and there were many were dressed in shorts and trainers and all were bare chested. Needless to say all were ripped with six packs but bare chested none the less.

Perhaps the tide is turning on being over dressed for gym.

Comments by FrankC on 8th April 2020  

Hi Stuart,I was twelve and a half when I started puberty so I was on par with much of my class of course with the thirteen year old lads able to cover up with trunks you would naturally feel vulnerable and exposed.I found trunks rather tight and restrictive at first after the freedom of previous years.

Comments by Frank C on 8th April 2020  

TO JOSH H Different times indeed. I suppose it is a shift in culture with child abuse issues. Although as a society we are more permissive barriers are put up to protect.

Comments by FrankC on 8th April 2020  

Hi Matthew, Yeh it would have been a good bonding experience!The other boys seemed a bit uneasy at first cupping their hands in front when we lined up in the corridor. As Stuart mentioned it was only like showering after games or football 95% we were in the water so it was something they had to get usedto

Comments by Matthew on 8th April 2020  

To Frank C.
Thanks to your father, at the start of term, you were quite prepared but were you aware of how the other boys felt? Did you eventually take part in galas in front of prospective pupils and their parents? Incidentally, it's a pity that you and your father weren't able to experience swimming together naked.

Comments by Stuart on 8th April 2020  Cmnmuk@yahoo.co.uk 

Biggles,
I wouldn't use the word uncomfortable or even embarrassing to be honest for me personally. Talking with a couple of old school mates I'm still in touch with they did however find it so especially in the last two years but then they were developing. For me being a "boy" throughout my time there meant it was pretty ok.
Regardless of what any boy felt it was back then just accepted and you did what you were told.

As well as the galas it was taken as being perfectly normal that there was nothing wrong in it. I recall one swimming lesson when i was about 12 . I was for some reason not in the water at the point the door to the pool opened and the head teacher walked in with a family showing them round the school. The family was mum, dad , a boy about 8 and his older sister about my age. The head even asked me a couple of questions. It was seen as normal. I didnt feel embarrassed in front of the adults,but a bit uneasy with the girl who clearly was looking with amazement!

Comments by Biggles on 7th April 2020  

Frank, Stewart,

I think it is one thing swimming naked between boys and swimming galas in front of spectators including women, whether school staff, parents or other guests.

Did you feel uncomfortable swimming nude in front of those guests during swim galas?
Also, were the boys' sisters allowed to watch the nude galas together with their parents?

Comments by Stuart on 6th April 2020  Cmnmuk@yahoo.co.uk 

FrankC. Sounds similar though i started my prep school age 9 in 1973. We happily swam naked at that age. The school had its own swim gala but that was just school and staff present including the very few female staff.
The gala allowed boys in the oldest year to wear trunks ( year 8s nowadays) and was held in the summer term so most were 13. It was a convention though that you only wore trunks if you had something to hide ( i.e. Had started puberty) so unfortunately for me aged still 12, august birtday, i was one of only a few naked boys in my year group. Not that i was worried about swimming naked more embarrassed that was still a boy and most of mates were not.

Nude swimming wasnt seen as anything odd, all boys, no different to showers after footie or rugby.

Comments by Josh H on 6th April 2020  

Frank C
It is interesting how times have changed. I note your comments about going swimming and then changing in front of other boys and dads which helped you to get used to that situation ready for your new school.
nowadays it seems most municipal swimming pools have "Changing Villages" which accommodate male & female so changing of course is done in cubicles. It is interesting that when I go to the Gym, how many of the young lads and not so young males
perhaps in their 20's only undress so far in the communal changing area and then go into the toilet cubicle to complete their change. Whereas those of us always used to communal changing just get on with it.
However, I must say a school swimming gala with every swimming in the does seem curious, especially as you say it was put on for visitors of potential pupils.

Comments by Frank C on 6th April 2020  

Hi Stuart, I attended a prep school late sixties.We could never have envisaged such a dire situation the world would be in in our senior years.My parents attended an Open Day May '67 with a view to me attending in the Autumn.I sat an entrance exam never imagining I would pass it as it quite complex.We were treated to a Swimming Gala in the afternoon,All the boys swam naked right from the smaller ones to the oldest.It was then I realized that if I past the exam I would be swimming naked also.In the July of that year.The prep school wrote to my parents stating that I had gained a place.My Father was very supportive knowing that I had a shy and inward personality.In the summer holidays he took me to the local swimming baths for some basic strokes and get me used to being naked after in the showers with older boys and fathers.This made me more confident in myself.When I started in the September of that year I was already looking forward to the swimming lessons and was much less shy than I would have been otherwise. Keep well everybody,keep safe.

Comments by Jono G on 5th April 2020  

Biggles,Stuart My boarding school didn't have a swimming pool, in fact nor did the locality. The nearest would have been around 35 miles away. It never made any difference to us and we're happy with what sports we did play.

Comments by Jono G on 5th April 2020  

Biggles,Stuart My boarding school didn't have a swimming pool, in fact nor did the locality. The nearest would have been around 35 miles away. It never made any difference to us and we're happy with what sports we did play.

Comments by Stuart on 5th April 2020  Cmnmuk@yahoo.co.uk 

Biggles indeed you are coreectt. My school in Surrey was a boarding/day school private and had its own swimming pool and was nude in the prep school, aged 9-13. The embarrassment of swimming naked was not even as issue at age 9. As boys hit puberty the first ones were either embarrassed or proud, whilst a couple of boys like myself had to endure not hitting puberty at all so stood out by the final year as very much boys. Luckily it was only teasing rather than anything worse.

Comments by Biggles on 4th April 2020  

Jono G,

Boarding schools were very different from normal day schools in many ways, including the strict and more regular physical exercise regime like you describe.

It was the same for nude swimming for boys when very few public(non-paying) schools had the luxury of a swimming pool.
In private(paying) and boarding schools it was not unusual to have a swimming pool where nude swimming was the norm for boys.



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